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Islam has degraded women

Postby establishtruth » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:51 am

Islam has degraded women


There are many things that are allowed or permitted by Islam which are degrading to women. The following are some of them:-

1. It allows polygamy. Men are permitted to marry 4 wives. The women has the rare honour to witness that her husband is taking another wife, as if, she is not enough for him.

2. Men can divorce their wife whenever they wish, by pronouncing talaq thrice. Think of the women who are divorced for no fault of their own. If a man wants to get rid of his unattractive wife he can divorce her so easily.

3. Men inherit twice as much as women.

4. Husbands are allowed to beat their wives.

5. It has supported the practice of Female Genital Mutilation.

6. It enforces the women to cover them up completely. It makes it appear that the hair and skin of women are objects of shame.

7. It encourages the Muslims to r**** the non believing women.

8. It encourages to take women as slaves as war booty.

9. It encourages people to have sex outside marriage, as for example by having sex with the slave girls. The wife has to accept that according to Quran it is 'halal' (rightful) for her husband to have sex with his female slave.

10. Only a Muslim and a male can be a judge. A non Muslim and a Muslim woman cannot be a judge. This is a big discrimination.

11. The testimony of a Muslim woman in court is only half of that of a Muslim man.

12. The lives of Muslim men and Muslim women are not same. The blood money for a male is twice that of a female. That is plain discrimination.

13. Stoning to death for adultery is a very harsh punishment. Mostly the women are victim of this. On many occasions women are tortured to make confessions of adultery so that they could be stoned to death.

14. Only way a woman can prove that she has been raped is by providing 4 male witnesses. No other proof is valid in court. So in most cases the rapists cannot be convicted and they are never punished. On the other hand if a woman fails to prove that she has been raped then she could be convicted of adultery and stoned to death.

15. The women do not have equal custody rights over her children on the event of divorce.

16. There is no provision of alimony for divorced women.

17. The Muta for Shia Muslims and Misgyar for Sunni Muslims are in reality not any proper marriage but kinds of legalized prostitution.

18. Islam allows the practice of thighing or mufa’khathat with the young children. It means placing the male organ between the thighs of the child.

19. The paradise described in Islam is a place of lust.

20. It promises paradise for the terrorists who blow themselves up. It says that 72 virgin houris would wait of those who would die for the sake of Allah.

Are these reasons sufficient for you to understand what kind of status is bestowed on women by Islam? If these are not sufficient then, please note that according to the Prophet of Islam women are intellectually deficient and deficient in faith. Majority of the dwellers in hell would be women.

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby billy69 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:08 am

which just goes to show that followers of this brand of islam are truly retards for not seeing life as it should be - brainwashed so by mad mullahs in mosques / maddrassas

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby bobeee1 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:03 pm

More fool the women for putting up with it

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby Gobnait » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:59 pm

Establishtruth! What a joke of a user name. :roll:

Way to go on starting a Muslim bashing thread. Perhaps now you'd like to go back to Google and find out the reasons for the existence of many of the above points which have been shared and are still shared by many religions and societies.

For instance the practice in many hot countries of not eating pork came about because the elders had to find a way to prevent people from suffering from food poisoning/death from eating spoiled meat not because initially that the pig was regarded as sacred. Polygamy was allowed because infant mortality was so high and women had no means of supporting themselves in many cultures. History would have been different if Henry VIII had been allowed four wives instead of having to get rid of one before taking another.

There are many reasons for religions developing as they have which you might do well to look into instead of taking the popular Western line of criticising that which you don't understand and which you haven't really the interest to investigate.

The fact that practices such as stoning and female subjugation still exist today in many Muslim countries is that they have not come into the modern world, as we perceive it here in the West, and that there are political forces at work in many countries which find it useful to propagate and bring back many of these customs under the cloak of religion which we regard as outdated. It is not so long ago that in the UK a married woman was regarded as her husband's property and so were the goods which she brought with her on marriage.

What about those wonderful Purity Balls that seem to be in fashion in some parts of the USA? They are just the start of some men deciding it's time to bring their woman back into line.

Read this and feel the same scorn you feel for Muslims for some people and a member of the clergy in modern Ireland.

There are rights and wrongs in every country, religion and society in the world. Perhaps do as bible suggested, "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
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Re: Islam has degraded women

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There are many things that are allowed or permitted by Islam which are degrading to women. The following are some of them:-

1. It allows polygamy. Men are permitted to marry 4 wives. The women has the rare honour to witness that her husband is taking another wife, as if, she is not enough for him.

2. Men can divorce their wife whenever they wish, by pronouncing talaq thrice. Think of the women who are divorced for no fault of their own. If a man wants to get rid of his unattractive wife he can divorce her so easily.

3. Men inherit twice as much as women.

4. Husbands are allowed to beat their wives.

5. It has supported the practice of Female Genital Mutilation.

6. It enforces the women to cover them up completely. It makes it appear that the hair and skin of women are objects of shame.

7. It encourages the Muslims to r**** the non believing women.

8. It encourages to take women as slaves as war booty.

9. It encourages people to have sex outside marriage, as for example by having sex with the slave girls. The wife has to accept that according to Quran it is 'halal' (rightful) for her husband to have sex with his female slave.

10. Only a Muslim and a male can be a judge. A non Muslim and a Muslim woman cannot be a judge. This is a big discrimination.

11. The testimony of a Muslim woman in court is only half of that of a Muslim man.

12. The lives of Muslim men and Muslim women are not same. The blood money for a male is twice that of a female. That is plain discrimination.

13. Stoning to death for adultery is a very harsh punishment. Mostly the women are victim of this. On many occasions women are tortured to make confessions of adultery so that they could be stoned to death.

14. Only way a woman can prove that she has been raped is by providing 4 male witnesses. No other proof is valid in court. So in most cases the rapists cannot be convicted and they are never punished. On the other hand if a woman fails to prove that she has been raped then she could be convicted of adultery and stoned to death.

15. The women do not have equal custody rights over her children on the event of divorce.

16. There is no provision of alimony for divorced women.

17. The Muta for Shia Muslims and Misgyar for Sunni Muslims are in reality not any proper marriage but kinds of legalized prostitution.

18. Islam allows the practice of thighing or mufa’khathat with the young children. It means placing the male organ between the thighs of the child.

19. The paradise described in Islam is a place of lust.

20. It promises paradise for the terrorists who blow themselves up. It says that 72 virgin houris would wait of those who would die for the sake of Allah.

Are these reasons sufficient for you to understand what kind of status is bestowed on women by Islam? If these are not sufficient then, please note that according to the Prophet of Islam women are intellectually deficient and deficient in faith. Majority of the dwellers in hell would be women.

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby Gobnait » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:35 am

Guest wrote:This site should be for whites only!


Great idea, but where will we wash our coloured laundry if that happens? Can you pass me along some of your Daz, please. I need to brighten up a little.
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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby tower208 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:37 am

Islam has always degraded women & always will. Thats too bad.

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby Bunny Bunny » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:12 am

And I suppose you're so much better than the people you criticise, when you show such a vulgar level of ignorance in your post.

Religions aren't to blame for the world's problems, people are, and people like you who spread hatred and appeal to the mob mentality of other idiots are the worst of the lot.

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby Gobnait » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:17 am

Bunny Bunny wrote:And I suppose you're so much better than the people you criticise, when you show such a vulgar level of ignorance in your post.

Religions aren't to blame for the world's problems, people are, and people like you who spread hatred and appeal to the mob mentality of other idiots are the worst of the lot.


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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby suzzie76 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:43 pm

I'm not muslim, but have lived recently in a muslim (UAE) one and its not that bad. Infact some ways more civilised than western. I being female don't wait in lines at govt departments, men (except usually Indian sub cont) stand up on train, seperate sections on bus and trains (optional) and taxis for women and families only. My UAE ID card was delivered to my house, kids and HB had to go get. Giving verbal abuse to female especially muslim is not tolerated. It could be said to seperate women, but here not really its about respect. But yes they don't have other equal factors such as male is head and if hsuband dies his brother has first rights to inhertitance etc.

But go to other even more liberal countries and things are even more liberal and women don't wear head scarfs, etc. The iranian women in UAE are the ones probably showing more skin than westerners. Our young Iranian real estate agent (female) was earing lower cut tops and bigger high heels than I was. In Dubai especially the National women wear big heels just to go shopping.

Bahrain gets alot of income from Saudi males driving across the border to drink and shag themselves stupid, then go home.

I realised living in UAE that muslim worls is not different to christian world, you have all levels of extremes. Just in muslim world some of them are very anti american/western and have done some extreme events. But we quickly forget the likes of Nth Ireland which is a battle over catholics and Church of England, which is only seperate because 500 years ago a randy king wanted divorce. The USA is also home to its own extreme christians.

My view of Islam is that its just another off-shoot of christianity that was adapated for extreme desert conditions, hence the all over loose body cover etc. Without this dress the Arabian gulf section could never have been habited in ancient times. But like Christian countries affulence breeds relaxation and the more developed these countries become, the less likely the new generations will follow the extremeists and allow future dictators like Gaddifi and Hussain, and we can see this happening now with people saying enough is enough. Global TV, mobile phones, internet etc you cannot keep your people in a box and act as lord dictator anymore.

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby koli » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:41 am

it is always unfair in the world , i don't want ot talk something about the religion , but something bad really happen time to time !

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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby KiltyCol » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:25 pm

People in the UK have fought hard to ensure that men and women have equal rights. These values must be applied to all UK residents and protected at all costs.

It is not our business to sort the Middle Eastern countries out. We should just protect our own values within the UK (and I'm sure that the USA & Australia would feel the same for their countries).
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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby AlephNaught » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:19 pm

Bunny Bunny wrote:Religions aren't to blame for the world's problems, people are, and people like you who spread hatred and appeal to the mob mentality of other idiots are the worst of the lot.
OK, maybe religions aren't to blame for ALL of the world's problems, but certainly have caused MANY problems - mostly organized religions.

What good has come out of any religion anyway? To quote Weinberg, "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion."
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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby Red head mum » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:26 am

Depends which region of the world the Muslim hails from, Muslims from Pakistan area and those from say Jordan have very different attitudes towards women and employment and education for women, so in my experience it seems to be a cultural problem dressed as Islam rather than Islam itself
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Re: Islam has degraded women

Postby Mac » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:58 am

KiltyCol wrote:People in the UK have fought hard to ensure that men and women have equal rights. These values must be applied to all UK residents and protected at all costs.

It is not our business to sort the Middle Eastern countries out. We should just protect our own values within the UK (and I'm sure that the USA & Australia would feel the same for their countries).

I like the Australian position - we are not going to change for you - accept our way or exercise your right to leave.

The USA has gone way too far in granting them religeous based rights which have been denied to Christians. It was established as religeous freedom for all but Christians have been denied many of their freedoms.
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